... issues and tissues with a touch of the spicy from the spirit hag ...
know anyone who has committed suicide ?. me too. i was younger at the time. a lot younger. and the young man who died was not a family member nor my closest friend. but we spent a lot of nights and weekends and holidays as part of a close-knit circle and when he died it changed everything.

death is an eventual fact for all of us. but at 19 it seems so remote as to be almost impossible. the decision of a young person to end a life that barely had time to get started is one that may people find incomprehensible. cowardly, even.

i had no real opinion of suicide until somebody i cared about died that way. as a result, my first impression of suicide has remained fixed as it was when his girlfriend called me at 7am that horrible morning 16 years ago ... he had laid down under a train the night before. near a bend so the driver would not have any time to brake. in a very dark spot.

i’ll never forget her voice. the doctor had given her some kind of tranquillizers and all she would say over and over was: ““it’s in the newspaper...they wrote that “the man was 19 and from sydney”...but they didn’t KNOW him and he wasn’t a man yet...he was just a beautiful boy””.

i remember my mother crying before i did. i just sat there.

shock reduces cognitive capacity in some areas. it has to. which may be why his death caused a mental rift in me that will never heal. i saw only the plain, simple truth right then: as i sat dry-eyed, i said to my mother “he’s afraid of the dark. what kind of horrible thing must have given him the courage to do that ?”.

my mother held me in the fierce way i now recognise as a combination of dread and relief: my baby is safe. but some other mothers’ child is not. i can still remember how quickly she may have mentally pegged me as “next” when she heard that news. what she called my “unpredictable emotional state” was never more of a real fear to her than at that time. and it shames me a little to admit that my wondering aloud how somebody could ever be brave enough to lie under a train and not GET UP when they heard it coming comforted her.

i guess she reasoned that at least the moody anti-social behaviour of her teenage daughter was just garden-variety teenage angst and not likely to end up with her offing herself. a parents’ worst fear is outliving their children for any reason. to endure the apparently voluntary death of the child you gave life to is the type of pain i can’t even pretend to understand. i have seen it first hand and i honestly know that if it were me, i would not survive.

the image of this young mans’ father, desperate with grief, insisting that there was “NO WAY” his son had “MEANT to do that” will be with me forever. i saw a broken man who had lost his son to a demon no father could fight with his love OR his fists. the shame associated with suicide forced this man to do the last thing he ever could for his son and try to remove the stigma of “mental illness” and “suicide” from his early death.

we wanted to believe him. but i think deep down he knew we never would. our friend was mentally ill. which is something we knew existed but didn’t know how to recognise as teenagers. we were all questioned fairly closely in some way or another after his death, and yes, we admitted, he did “crazy things” – jumped out of a moving car, stayed too long underwater and then said “i won’t drown myself today. the water is too cold”.

yes, we thought something was amiss. but only through painful life experience did i learn MY truth about worrying behaviour from those i care for: i’d rather risk offering unneeded help and suffer embarrassment at my misjudgement than have somebody pay with their life for it.

no, i don’t blame myself. even had i known what was wrong, i wouldn’t have known what to do. but if it happens again to somebody i love and i put my own comfort above their very life by choosing to remain silent, i will blame myself. because i know better. and now so should you.

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on Feb 12, 2004
Yes. I do, it affected me profoundly. But I don't have the strength to write about it yet.
on Feb 12, 2004
Teen suicide is a massive issue in Australia... as i am sure you are aware mignuna.

My Parents were spiritual leaders in a Church Youth group... a lot of young people would come to them for advice. There was this one girl, who seemed larger than life... always happy, and as i would have been around 9-10, and she was 18... i held her in high esteem. I learnt that this girl was a manic depressant, and had tried to take her own life, she failed... and she came to my dad for help.

My dad was a great man... he had all the time in the world for young people, and would help them in whatever way he could. She appeared to be ok after a while...

My dad then got cancer, and died 6 months after... Kelly committed suicide only months later... slashed her wrists in a warm bath.

I have always thought people who commit suicide are incredibly weak willed and selfish... and long ago I myself have had suicidal thoughts... i have been through some hard times... but there is no way i could kill myself, simply for the fact that i know people love me, and they would be upset immensely.

If someone appears depressed, it really is our oppurtunity and responsibility to check if everythings ok. These people need to realise that people do care for them, and the world isn't a better place when they leave...

Peace Out.
on Feb 12, 2004
"I have always thought people who commit suicide are incredibly weak willed and selfish... and long ago I myself have had suicidal thoughts... "

I'm in the same boat as you. Only in my case I’m going through what you view as long ago. And I agree somewhat with what is being said. I do agree that all people should go through life trying to please as many people as they can, but where the line is drawn on the word "can" is important.

I've gone through it all, my own feelings aside, I literally cannot count the nights in which I have stayed up all night, drinking anything caffeinated and switching phones every four hours because one of my friends wanted to kill him/herself. I've dealt with attempts, successions, and mere thoughts. Last summer a fairly popular person among the large group of friends I hang out with committed suicide. He went home one night, didn't tell a soul of his plans, taped a plastic bag over his head, and tried to fall asleep. I remember the physical pain I felt when I heard the news. I didn't even know this man, I had heard his name, and seen him walk by as if he were part of the scenery of life. The news swarmed over the city like a plague. As if in a movie, I would see someone walk up to another person, hushed whispers would ensue, and then they would both begin to sob as I watched the color drain from their faces.
Do I blame myself in anyway for this? No, I don’t think its fair for anyone to hold themselves accountable for another persons actions. I didn’t put the bag there, you didn’t slit her wrists, and you didn’t stick him on the train tracks. Please don’t view what I’m saying as insensitive, because my heart goes out to all of you, and particularly to the individuals named above. If you see someone going through a hard time, you should always try to help as much as you can, but it is unfair to sacrifice your own life, for theirs, if you are always there for someone when they begin to feel suicidal, especially as a teenager, you become there addiction. I think the best way to help is by showing your love and care for them as strongly as you can, and by trying to help as much as you can, but if your love isn’t good enough to stop someone, that doesn’t make it your fault.
on Feb 13, 2004
i found it difficult to write this, and i'm glad that my meaning seems to have gotten across. thanks for your comments, as this article in particular means a great deal to me.
on Feb 29, 2004
There's nothing more frightening than knowing a friend is holding a razor to their wrist.

It's haunting... may I quote some evanescense?

"Don't say I'm not in touch
With this rampant chaos, your reality
I know well what lies beyond my sleeping refuse
The nightmare i built my own world to escape."

~Dan
on Mar 01, 2004
that's really lovely, dan, and i found it genuinely insightful. thanks for sharing those words. mig XX.
on Mar 01, 2004
If someone appears depressed, it really is our oppurtunity and responsibility to check if everythings ok. These people need to realise that people do care for them, and the world isn't a better place when they leave...Peace Out.


by the way, i never thanked you muggaz (mark hehe) for this comment. i'm glad you feel the way you do about reaching out. that rocks. thanks, mig XX
on Mar 01, 2004
I've had a similiar situation with my ex. Dropped out of uni to be there at any given hour, some days I wouldn't even leave the vincinity. It was hard, but things worked out ok in the long run. Pity we're not together any more, but the only thing that counts is that everything's ok.
on Mar 01, 2004
Its an issue thats dear to my heart...

When the only answer is to kill yourself... that person is getting the right help. We cant go around and ask if everyone is ok - but there are signs that tell us when things aren't so good, at that point, its important you do your part to let the person know that they are loved.

Peace.
on Mar 01, 2004
Agreed. I think everybody should say I love you a thousand times a day.

I know I try:)

~Dan
on Mar 01, 2004
I love you a thousand times a day.

Trinitie
on Mar 01, 2004
ugh ... trinitie ... that's so corny *pukes* hehe ... dan and muggaz are right. reassurance can mean everything to somebody who is feeling lost. spread that love boys . mig. XX
on Mar 01, 2004
Speaking of reassurance, thanks Trin:) (Anger management: you know how I feel about public displays of affection!) lol okay so maybe I don't mind sooo much...

~Dan
on Mar 03, 2004
Reply By: Dan KaschelPosted: Monday, March 01, 2004 (Anger management: you know how I feel about public displays of affection!) lol okay so maybe I don't mind sooo much...

awwww ... dan gets embarrassed by public displays of affection ... so if i was to say stuff like this:

"we LOVE you, dan. we all want to be you. especially me. we love you SO MUCH that we are going to form the "i love dan" club and wear t-shirts that say "dan is the man" ..."

dan would just HATE that, right ?
on Mar 04, 2004
No, but I'd ask if I got royalities for the t-shirt;)

~Dan
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